Flat Chat Strata Forum The Professionals Current Page

  • Creator
    Topic
  • #45749
    YolBee
    Flatchatter

      We have a complex wide parking problem (i.e. almost half the residents are parking innapropriately). I recently asked for this to be progressed, potentially with NTCs, and our strata manager informed me that too many NTCs will not look good on the body corporate records.

      I want the parking issues addressed so couldn’t really care less how it ‘looks’, but should I? Is there any substance to this comment?

    Viewing 8 replies - 1 through 8 (of 8 total)
    • Author
      Replies
    • #45770
      Jimmy-T
      Keymaster

        Tell them having the committee/strata manager taken to NCAT under a section 232(2) for failure to exercise their responsibilites under the Act looks even worse.

        As a compromise, your strata manager could send out a general warning letter that rogue parking is in breach of the by-laws and failure to comply will lead to NTCs and possible fines.  That’s one notice.

        Prospective buyers will look more favourably on a scheme that has had a problem and dealt with it than one that’s clearly pretending there is no problem.  I think your biggest issue may be that you have a lazy strata manager and/or committee.

         

        The opinions offered in these Forum posts and replies are not intended to be taken as legal advice. Readers with serious issues should consult experienced strata lawyers.
        #45887
        YolBee
        Flatchatter
        Chat-starter

          I am on the executive committee, and not one, but two circulars have been sent. Getting the second one sent was a challenge in itself. Simply exhausting. Our manager just blocks our requests and the parking problems persist. I wanted to avoid NCAT, but I think this is where I am going to have to take this. Simply ridiculous given we pay fees for this kind of “non-managment”.

          Whats interesting is this manager has been delegated all roles of the office bearers. I doubt anyone would want to act in these (or who they even belong to?) but the impression I get is this individual thinks they hold absolute authority over this scheme, and likely have for a long time.

          I will post an update as things progress (provided they do)…

           

          #45915
          Jimmy-T
          Keymaster

            If no one else is doing the job, get yourself elected chair and/or secretary (a simple vote at your next committee meeting) then the dog can start wagging the tail, rather than the other way round.

            Even if powers have been delegated, they can be resumed by an elected office-bearer whenever they want.

            But talk to your fellow committee members first about the money being wasted on this do-nothing SM to make sure they are onside before you put it on the agenda.

            The opinions offered in these Forum posts and replies are not intended to be taken as legal advice. Readers with serious issues should consult experienced strata lawyers.
            #45923
            YolBee
            Flatchatter
            Chat-starter

              I asked who the office bearers were and the response I got was “those are elected at the first AGM”. This first AGM must have been more than 8 years ago. Baffling.

              I’m certainly no expert, so would not want to end up in a role when I have a heap of unfamiliar administrative duties, but this manager needs oversight and a push to do the job. What are the implications of being voted into this role, and which one would you suggest given the all issues that I have presented recently on this site? (Several owners have also told me they have not been satisfied with maintenance and gardening costs – another issue =)).

              Two other owners have already told me that are not 100% satisfied with this manager (one more so), but people can be averse to change – when push comes to shove kind of thing..

              anyways, I think I’m just going to buy your book.

               

              #45935
              Jimmy-T
              Keymaster

                Just a few technical points. In NSW the strata committee has to be elected every year at the AGM.  Ths committee then elects that office-bearers (if any).  That means that unless you have had a proper election at a proper AGM in the interim, rather than having the same office-bearers and committee, you have none.

                I would say that alone suggests that your committee is in disarray and the one person who should be fixing this – the strata manager –  is doing nothing.

                If I were in your shoes I would gather up all the complaints about everything, call an informal meeting of owners and propose that you be Chairman and secretary until such times as everything is on an even keel.  After that, it’s up to you how much or how little you do – considering that nothing has been happening for years, the bar isn’t set terribly high (you just have to resist the temptation to fix everything all at once).

                As chair, you don’t have executive or presidential powers … all you can do is chair meetings … but you will become a figure-head for the building and at some point a focus of discontent. But it’s worth the effort because just by making your scheme run as it’s supposed to, you are enhancing the value of your property.

                Doubling up as secretary means you can see everything that’s going on and actually get things done.  And if you were looking for help to get this all rolling, our sponsors Strata Answers are fantastic.

                Oh, and the book is out of print (and out of date) and the publishers rejected a proposal for a new one because “you can get it all on the internet”. Ironic, or what?

                The opinions offered in these Forum posts and replies are not intended to be taken as legal advice. Readers with serious issues should consult experienced strata lawyers.
                #46631
                YolBee
                Flatchatter
                Chat-starter

                  Thanks again for the info and for the referral to Strata Answers – very helpful.

                  p.s. Shame about the publishers – I would buy an e-book too.

                  #46653
                  Sir Humphrey
                  Strataguru

                    Just to reinforce one of JT’s points: The strata manager works for you and the committee can and should make decisions and direct the strata manager. Don’t let the tail wag the dog. If you have sent two nice informal parking notices around, it is time to get serious. Don’t ask. You direct the SM to issue notices to comply. Make it a decision of the committee taken at a properly convened meeting with minutes. Let the minutes record that the decision to issue notices to comply was made after having sent the previous circulars. Make sure the text of the notices to comply contains all that is required by the Act for a proper notice.

                    It is right and proper for the SM to give advice, but the committee makes the decision on behalf of the Owners Corporation and does not have to follow the manager’s advice. The SM is your employee and does have to follow directions. The only exception is if you were telling them to do something that would be illegal.

                    #46905
                    Flame Tree (Qld)
                    Flatchatter

                      I’d caution jumping on to your committee without first understanding the task and time involved. It’s a pig of a job to do well, thankless, prone to conflict and takes much more time than you’d think, and involves many areas that take a lot to get your head around. If your main few issues can be just addressed and you go on your way do that. If you alone get on your committee as well as with the numbers still in the current’s hands all you will achieve is your own frustrations, so if you want to try hop aboard I would suggest you get a few competent, motivated others there to also get involved. Good luck!

                    Viewing 8 replies - 1 through 8 (of 8 total)
                    • You must be logged in to reply to this topic.

                    Flat Chat Strata Forum The Professionals Current Page