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    AvatarZiggy
    Flatchatter

    Every time I submit a motion  to be placed on the agenda of  meetings, they are completely edited and rewritten by either the SM or SC.

    I recently spent hours  writing a motion  concerning  illegal parking  in my unit block. This included lots of advice for  apathetic owners who, one, don’t live in the building and two, don’t know the rules.

    Is this re-edit legal?

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  • #52159
    Jimmy-TJimmy-T
    Keymaster

    Put a motion up that the strata manager cease and desist from editing owners’ motions and explanatory notes without a detailed and written explanation of why they have chosen to do so.  You might even couch them in terms of creating work for themselves so they can charge more Schedule B fees.

    Oh, and you ciuld try sending the accompanying notes as a PDF – that might baffle them

    #52154
    AvatarZiggy
    Flatchatter
    Chat-starter

    Thanks Jimmy. I’ve complained many times to the SM about deleting valid information that would help owners make informed decisions.

    A lot of the succinct information I wrote on the Visitor Parking Bylaw was taken from reputable organisations, such as yours, and numerous others.

    I have again requested a response from the SM re this annoying habit. Previous SMs did not do this.

    #52153
    Sir HumphreySir Humphrey
    Strataguru

    Thanks very much Sir Humphrey but I did exactly as you suggested. I wrote a simple, clear, unambiguous Motion – That a Bylaw be drafted to prohibit illegal parking in Visitor Spaces at … – followed by a detailed explanation in an explanatory statement. I’ve had enough experience now not to poorly draft a motion for an agenda.

    OK. In that case I can’t see any reason for redrafting. I agree with JT that your motion should be put as you drafted it or they should discuss their proposed rewording with you and you could agree to their suggestions or not.

    It would be legitimate for the meeting to pass a motion to amend your motion but only if the amendment is within the scope of the original motion and does not alter its nature. Eg. An amendment to your motion might add a time frame if you had not specified that or authorise the committee to spend some amount to have the by-law drafted by a relevant expert.

    #52150
    AvatarZiggy
    Flatchatter
    Chat-starter

    Thanks very much Sir Humphrey but I did exactly as you suggested. I wrote a simple, clear, unambiguous Motion – That a Bylaw be drafted to prohibit illegal parking in Visitor Spaces at … – followed by a detailed explanation in an explanatory statement.

    I’ve had enough experience now not to poorly draft a motion for an agenda.

    #52151
    Jimmy-TJimmy-T
    Keymaster

    Every time I submit a motion to be placed on the agenda of meetings, they are completely edited and rewritten by either the SM or SC.  Is this re-edit legal?

    Did the edit change the intent or emphasis of the motion?

    Also, I think a firmly worded note to the strata manager or committee asking them to not edit the motions, or at least explain why they want to make changes, would be reasonable.

    #52146
    Sir HumphreySir Humphrey
    Strataguru

    If a motion includes “lots of advice”, then perhaps it was poorly drafted. A motion generally has to be in a form that clearly directs someone to do some thing. Eg. “That the Owners Corporation must do X when Y occurs”.

    A chair could decline to put a motion to a meeting if it is not competent to unequivocally direct someone to do some thing. The chair could also rule that the motion should not be put because it would require something that would be inconsistent with the relevant strata act or other legislation. The reasonable thing to do would be to come back to you explaining the deficiencies in your motion, as they see them, and to suggest how you might reword them to be a motion that could be voted on.

    Where detailed explanation is required, that can be in an explanatory statement.

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