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  • #53924
    Esmeralda
    Flatchatter

    Re pet owners: What are their responsibilities? Such as faeces deposits on Common Property?

    I had returned to my building, entered, and was instantly approached by the temping young female cleaner. “Did you step on the dog poo”. What! I said. Whereupon she pointed to it right in the middle of the doorway entrance. I checked my shoes.

    I told her to complain to the B.C. as I did not feel she should have to do the removal of the poo. I left her in her quandary. Next day she told me she contacted her cleaning company who told she had to clean the disgusting mess. What are cleaners’ rights?

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  • #54085
    strataact
    Flatchatter

    What about a Bylaw requiring Pet owners to register the animals DNA with the body corporate.  Then the committee and cleaners could collect and send for analysis any uncollected droppings left on common property.  If that then matches back to registered pet, the owner is responsible for the cost of analysis, and cleaning, and can be issued a NTC for not cleaning up after their animal .

    Might be a bit of a “sledgehammer to crack a nut” solution though.

    #53988
    analuk
    Flatchatter

    I don’t live in strata, and made a decision some years ago not to do so because of similar matters such as these. So perhaps I should mind my own business; anyway here is my six pence worth.

    Technically I agree with scotlandx, but on a more personal/individual note though there is the societal matter of personal<->communal responsibility.

    (Normally) outside the confines of the strata it is the responsibility of the owner to pick up. Why should inside the ”communal strata zone” be any different? This applies to general littering as well I think.

    If you own a dog that’s your job (to pick up). If you don’t want to do that job, hire someone to do your dirty work or just don’t own/walk a dog.

     

     

    #53989
    Boronia
    Flatchatter

    Dog/cat poo is an annoying issue, but hardly a big one

    If a cleaner, regardless of age or gender is traumatised by a small amount of waste matter, perhaps they should not be doing cleaning work.

    As for “supporting” the cleaner, the employer should be providing them  with suitable tools, and PPE, to carry out such work.

    The OC should have some sort of agreement/contract with the cleaning company stipulating what level of work is to be carried out on a regular basis, with possible provision for “extras” at agreed rates.

    #53990
    JG
    Flatchatter

    My strata has has a long term overbearing committee member that sends their dog unaccompanied to defecate on common property and the rest of the committee is not willing to take on this 6ft 4 ex rugby player.

    #53969
    scotlandx
    Strataguru

    As pointed out, by-laws permitting pets generally have provisions regarding the pet owner’s responsibility regarding any mess that the pet may make on common property. Our by-laws provide that the owner must clean it up, but it may be that the owner cannot be identified (in our building it is pretty easy).

    In relation to the cleaner – the cleaner is employed by the cleaning company. The OC has a contract with the cleaning company.  Cleaners are engaged by the OC to clean the property, and that may include unpleasant messes of various kinds. It is not a matter for the OC to deal with a cleaning contractor’s “rights”. If you feel that the cleaner should not be dealing with it, then who should?

    #53967
    Boronia
    Flatchatter

    She is a cleaner. If she can’t handle a bit of dog/cat poo, perhaps she should be looking at a less stressful job. Her rights? Well perhaps her employer should be providing the correct equipment to handle the task.

    #53937
    kaindub
    Flatchatter

    Whilst it is disappointing thst pet owners leave the fouling of their pets, the job of the cleaner is to clean.

    No one likes picking up animal droppings, but it’s not the OC job to “protect” the cleaner. And you don’t know – the cleaning company may be a very good employer. I’m sure that this is not the first poo the cleaner has encountered and won’t be the last.

    Your energies are best spent to fund the culprit. Have you tried CCTV tapes?

    #53933
    excathedra
    Flatchatter

    If Esmeralda is in NSW and her building allows pets, the relevant by-law most likely requires that a pet owner must “take any action that is necessary to clean all areas of the lot or the common property that are soiled by the animal”.

    If the perpetrator can’t be identified, then the unfortunate cleaner is probably stuck with the problem, which is a sad reflection on her employer’s lack of respect for its staff. She has rights, but they are not being respected, possibly because she is young, female, and perhaps also a visa holder with plenty of potential replacements available if she quits.

    She deserves support from the Owners’ Corporation.

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