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    mill2798
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    Theft? An owner (A) opens his door to retrieve a box of cakes left at his door by his next door neighbour (B). What he finds is another owner(C) from two floors above with the box of cakes in his hands on his way up to his unit. Owner (A) confronts owner (C) who hands back the box of cakes. Owner (C) does not apologise or admit to doing anything wrong.
    Owner (A) is a strata committee member and informs members of the strata committee of the actions by owner (C).
    Trust has now broken down between members of the strata committee and owner (C).
    What should owner (A) or the strata committee do so that residents in the building can continue to trust each other and that owner (C) understands that his behaviour is completely unacceptable?

    #37981
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    Flame Tree
    Flatchatter

    Haven’t you just demonstrated that blind trust, though desirable, shouldn’t be taken for granted?

    #37989
    Jimmy-T
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    You have to tread very carefully here.  The opportunist (thieving) neighbour needs to know that their behaviour isn’t acceptable but you also have to be wary of defaming them publicly and of creating unnecessary alarm within the building.

    On the question of defamation, given there were no other witnesses, this would just be a “he said, she said” argument in the unlikely even the police were called, but it could lead to an expensive civil action if you reported in minutes that Bloggsy in Number 13 was a kleptomaniac.

    You could send a note around that there is a thief in the building and for owners to make sure that no goods were left on doorsteps.  But would that raise unnecessary alarm?

    However, don’t you have a duty of care to other owners to let them know that the block is not as safe as people might hope or assume?

    And as for the cake-taker, they need to know that other people in the building are aware of their shenanigans.

    I think if it was up to me, I’d send around a note saying something like:

    “An item was taken from the doorstep of a resident recently. The culprit was identified and the item returned. However, please be careful about any deliveries that you may arrange to be left outside your door in your absence. And please report any missing goods to a committee member and we will pursue this with the police if need be.”

    The ensuing chatter should be enough to make your sweet-toothed sneak think twice before doing it again. But, sadly, that loss of trust is a bell that can’t be unrung.

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    Sir Humphrey
    Sir Humphrey
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    Yep. JT’s note to all is what I would do.

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    LogicprObe
    Flatchatter

    Surveillance cameras are cheap these days……………available with very high quality too.

    Much better than eye witness and heresay.

    #38087

    Cameras are useless, they were put in our block at great expense and quickly smashed, the best would be to circulate the note that is mentioned.

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    S C Steenkamp
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    A note may suffice in some instances, eg where the item had been retrieved and the culprit apologised.  When a box of wine disappeared after delivery to our premises the culprit was identified on our security cameras and the recording used successfully in a court case.

     

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